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5 years 9 months ago #66915 by waldens@faerieglen
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Dennis took this photo at Olifants Rest Camp, KNP, during our December holiday.
Is it a Juvenile African Hawk Eagle, or could it be something else perhaps?


IMG_3180.jpg by Boskat/Ramkat , on Flickr

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5 years 9 months ago #66922 by Ian_H
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cant help ont he ID but just want to say what a stunning pic, I love the eye!!

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5 years 9 months ago #66925 by Janine
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Beautiful photograph!! :)
I think this is a Wahlberg's Eagle(WE), the darker morph (they can be in four different morphs).
It has a strong beak, and the beak gape, extends to just under the eye.
The tail is also "closed" which is normally seen with a flying WE. The
wings are also in a "rectangular" shape. The eye is also brown.
Hope this helps! :)

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5 years 9 months ago #66932 by Doug
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Doesn't the slit-shaped nostril mean its tawny or steppe?
Tawny has a plain tail, steppe has a barred tail. This would be Steppe in
My mind.

Whalbergs has a indistinctly barred or even unbarred tail.

Any other thoughts?


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5 years 9 months ago #66936 by mdelport
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To me the gape looks too short for Steppe, but the nostril is wrong for Wahlberg's and Lesser Spotted and the barring on the tail seems wrong for Tawny. I can't think what it is, I'll have to do some reading and try find out what it could be.

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5 years 9 months ago #66940 by waldens@faerieglen
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Thanks for trying to help, guys, we're stumped, and would love to find out what it is. It was making use of the up-draught coming from the Olifants River, and just soaring with YBKites and some other birds. I must add that it seemed quite large compared to the Kites.

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5 years 9 months ago #66941 by Janine
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Wahlberg's eagle have a slightly barred tail.
Steppe Eagle has a white rump, as well as lesser spotted eagle.
Thus leaves us with Wahlbergs and Tawny.
Tawny has a paler eye, and Wahlbergs a brown one.
Thus I'm suggesting this is Wahlbergs.

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5 years 9 months ago #66942 by Doug
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Like the logic you use. Will raptors of the world this evening.


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5 years 9 months ago #66944 by Birdlover
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Interesting discussion, Love the photo.

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5 years 9 months ago #66957 by mdelport
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@wfrancois92 It's only juvenile Steppe Eagle that shows a white rump, not the adult. Also eye colour is a very unreliable characteristic to use to separate these Eagles. Eye colour can vary a lot depending on the light and the bird's age.

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